LUTS! How is it that C1 can't use LUTs?

On top of using LUTs in C!, I would like to get the possibility to export my C1 styles as 3D LUTs (*.cube). The first cameras (e. g. Lumix S5II) are able to import LUTs and to apply a LUT to JPGs. In that way, it would be possible to shoot RAW+JPG and getting a nearly finalized JPG file out-of-cam to give it quickly to a client and using the RAW file in C1 with the original C1 style for the final post processing.

I also found this Work Around https://lutify.me/docs/how-do-i-install-lutify-me-luts-into-capture-one-pro-styles-and-presets-tool/ if Has anyone needed it and https://youtu.be/McRO_RmgD0E?si=XuCcxr3mBkvWFyHI

One hopes that somewhere someone is paying attention to this but I guess not. I use LUTs I create in 3D LUT creator but its a painful process using them compared to Affinity Photo or DxO Photolab. I'd be less annoyed if C1 supported colour charts. (I use 3D LUT creator to build the profile then import the result into C1.)

Imo, LUTs should be applied in layers for two reasons,

(1) opacity to control the strength of the effect

2) and to be able to bring every image into a 'neutral' base state, so that the LUT can work on this state, as the effect of a LUT depends on the image colors and tones, e.g. if one applies a LUT which was defined on a "regular" image to an underexposed image with a red color shift, the LUT would not work as desired.
If one has a hammer (the LUT) one should apply it to the type of object it was designed for, not to screws.

Luckily, the upper layers are applied later in the processing pipeline than the lower layers, that includes all tools which are applicable to layers (to my knowledge at least).

I would also "vote" for LUT support in layers (like you can do in nodes in DaVinci Resolve). The LUT should be at the end of the signal chain, so that you can make exposure and other adjustment changes prior to the LUT, so that the LUT/LUTs are applied with the right exposer etc. That said, you place the LUT at the end of the signal chain, but then you are able to go back and balance the shot (exposure, contrast, color balance etc.) seeing the image through the LUT. 

The main reason that I would like to see it in layers, is that I would like to be able to adjust the opacity, and that way be able to blend different LUT's for look creation, or tone down the effect etc. 

This is THE ONE feature that I care about! :)

It would be indeed very useful to have Luts natively inside C1. I have 3d Lut Creator and can create Luts and/or adapt them to any ICC profile, but it would be way more efficient to have a native implementation of this functionnality. Indeed, DXO did it a few months ago...

I also don't want to look for expensive ways to convert LUT to C1, but I reely need this funcion.

I do however fully support the request for LUT layers in C1.

I wish for LUTs in layers so that I can use masks and opacity slider.

Also great for when outdoor shots of people are sunburned. A LUT can change the red sunburn into a more suntan look for portraits.

Just in case you don't know, this is really easy in C1 without a LUT, in my opinion. Note the dot is the target color for the uniformity sliders in the Skin Tone Editor, so set it as then desired suntan color and the uniformity sliders will push the colors in the pie segment towards this color:

DXO Photolab added LUT support on its v7 that has come out a few months back.
I have now moved to using it over C1. The LUT support is basic but it works and I can use all my custom LUTs now.
Its a different work flow in Photolab but once you learn it it works great, Also has many features C1 dose not have like auto horizon that saves a lot of time and auto sharpening based on the camera and lens used also saving a lot of time and the auto distortion that fixes the image making it look better and the fantastic noise reduction. And a lot more.

I am using a custom LUT now for my outdoor portraits I made and can blend it in as strong or as little as I want now. Then have other ones for other things plus a lot of film LUTs.
Also great for when outdoor shots of people are sunburned. A LUT can change the red sunburn into a more suntan look for portraits.

As someone who partly makes a living from selling C1 film styles, I live in fear of the day C1 adds support for them...! :D

Seriously though, it seems like such a small simple feature which would be a big improvement for a lot of people, I'm amazed it's not been done yet. The current workaround to use LUTs in C1 (embedding via the base characteristics) is complex, fiddly and inflexible, and compromises colour accuracy unless targeting a specific camera model only. Surely a LUT tool couldn't be that hard?

btw, I like the easy to grasp cost model of 3D LUT Creator:

Updates are free up to version 1.xx. Paid upgrades are 2.0, 3.0, etc.
The cost of the update is 50% of the current version cost at the time of the update.

+1

Please include it as a layer, with all the opacity / masking options that offers.

Moved from the archive on 22.05.23.

I see.  Keith, are you getting a lot out of the new subscription based culling system?

I don't think that's what it means

That's exactly what it means.

Aside from that, I don't understand why this feature still does not exist yet.

Because its importance to you does not equate to importance to the wider community: Capture One takes a "popularity" based approach to feature requests, and if a given feature doesn't appear, it's because there isn't sufficient demand for it.

I don't think that's what it means. I just saw another post about FR statuses and apparently, it's a total mess as no one actually manages this (anymore).

As far as I know, Capture One keeps a list/database of user requests; once a request has been added to this list, it's marked as "completed".

I don't think that's what it means. I just saw another post about FR statuses and apparently, it's a total mess as no one actually manages this (anymore).

Aside from that, I don't understand why this feature still does not exist yet. It's the one feature that would literally pay for itself as CaptureOne could start selling their own LUTs, just like they do with the styles.

Why was this FR marked as completed? There is still no LUT support.

"Completed" just means that it's registered by Capture One as a user request.