Improve Capture One
Request a new feature, or support for a camera/lens that you would like to use in Capture One.
Request a new feature, or support for a camera/lens that you would like to use in Capture One.
What problem do you see this solving?
I upload my studio sessions via cloud backup to my NAS at home. However, when working on my PC or MacBook Pro, I often encounter obstacles. I'm not in close proximity to the NAS, and the Wi-Fi appears obstructed due to the building's older construction. A more efficient network-based workflow for handling RAW files on the NAS, allowing me to seamlessly access and work with the session on my computers, would greatly enhance my process. I'm unsure if the Enterprise version offers this feature, but remote retouching teams operating away from shooting studios could significantly benefit from direct access to NAS files without the need to duplicate sessions locally and reorganize the main folders.
When was the last time you were affected by this lack of functionality, or specific tool?
I encounter frequent hangs when attempting to create masks or apply changes in batch, and I'm uncertain whether it's due to the network (utilizing WIFI6 AX3000, which should offer strong performance) or if it's a compatibility issue related to working over the network. The process becomes significantly slower when dealing with a larger number of files for batch changes.
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Current workaround
Are you using any workarounds or other solutions to achieve your goals in Capture One? Initially, I attempted to open the session from the NAS on various computers, and the performance was abysmal. After researching in the community, I found a post detailing the same issue. The suggested solution was to copy the session locally and work on the raw files over the network. However, this process is manual and not streamlined, especially when dealing with numerous sessions. I haven't tested this method with catalogs, but considering how catalogs typically perform, I'm fairly certain the results would be worse. |
I upgraded my NAS to 10GbE for this purpose. It works reasonably well, however with C1 using many small files for Sessions, the bottleneck then becomes latency of the spinning drives. To solve that, I now use an SSD "Triage" disk where I put Sessions which require culling and editing. Once the edits are complete and images culled, I move the Session to from the Triage (SSD) to the Storage (spinning) drives. Having an NVMe read/write cash also helps, but the biggest difference came from adding RAM and SSD to the NAS. Not sure if links will work, but here's my setup: https://fcracer.com/synology-ds1522-10gbe-nas-first-impressions/
> I recently switch to NFS as network protocol and it seems to work way better. I would suggest to try that.
> A friend of my is using big session (like >50 Gb) over a NAS and it's working very well.
We all used wired LAN connection. WLAN is not sooo reliable for that I guess.
Capture One has publicly stated they are working on improved synchronization. The mobile apps can currently push files to the cloud and the desktop can download them. You cannot go from desktop to mobile. Improvements in synchronization are ultimately supposed to offer full bi-directional synchronization. This may be the best you will get from capture one for collaboration but only capture one knows the full extent of these plans. It is a small company compared to adobe or davinci resolve so their resources are limited and must remain somewhat focused.
My NAS, on a local WiFi network, is OK for editing, a bit slower to get going on first access, but I use it only after I have finished with my main editing expectation.
Now the key thing there may be that I use sessions rather than catalogues. So portability make sense.
As for the NAS - editing off the NAS works well enough as long as the NAS has not gone into some form of ECO hibernation and is not in the middle of some sort of internal housekeeping activity.
If either of those situations apply the wake-up time or the task interruption time may be long enough for C1 to time out. So one has to try again.
There are times when the NAS does not seem to act on (or maybe does not receive?) a "wake-up" call from C1. IN such cases I need to use Windows to wake the NAS and then allow a little time for it to fully establish a network presence.
The worst case is that the NAS>Router connection (via a WiFI extender unit in my case) has frozen and then some sort of reset of the connection will be required.
Reading the comment I would say that I never trusted NAS or similar solutions and keep everything on a single machine instead - too much data (even before I started photography or ARWs) to NOT have bottlenecks in network, even 10GBps. I'm editing recent sessions off external SSD for that minimum of portability and then moving them to internal HDDs (backed up) for long-term storage.
Hey Walter!
I'm pretty sure Enterprise is more of a big company product, and I'm just a freelance photographer, don't know if the price is similar or if it's available to end-users.
Reading the forums I found this request from Michael Moore, which I think might be the issue I have: https://support.captureone.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/9826370590109-Would-love-to-see-file-DAM-performance-improvements-prioritized
Might solve it altogether without needing what I'm asking, but you never know. Capture One being "network collaboration ready" would be nice in the long run.
Have you looked at Capture One Enterprise? I don't know what additional features it offers but you could reach out to Capture One to ask.
Hi Marcin, it’s not about the NAS or my network. The issue is about working with catalogs or sessions locally that need to access RAW files over a NAS or a shared storage. The solution for me would be installing 10GB ethernet, but I’m on a lease and I’m pretty sure my landlord is not interested on installing that. DaVinci Resolve has a server app that can serve as a connection point for a Team to work on the same project and that’s an example of a solution for teams to connect and work seamlessly over networked files. I don’t know how they do it but Inditex Group has 50 photo sets in the same building shooting thru C1 and they would need to upload all the raws to the retouching teams, some offsite because most of the time they have to outsource for volume. But in my case if the performance of C1 over networked files was as seamless as locally this weren’t an issue at all. I know the dev team isn’t going to solve this tomorrow or maybe never, but the less I have to spend in hardware the better. I’ll end up buying an external USB drive to work rolling backwards to my slow workflow before I installed a NAS thinking I could retouch or my wife could retouch on her computer without moving the files anywhere.
User to user, why do you expect RAW editor to solve network issues outside its responsibility? Fix your network or raise an issue with your network provider, storage has to be reliable in the first place - your situation is about the same as with a failing drive, I guess, something almost impossible to handle differently than "rescue&abandon" approach, where data has to be "saved" first from the broken device and moved to a stable location.