X-Rite Colorchecker Calibration

Yeah, I've definitely been happy with basICColor - you get a lot of control and editability over the profile, you can just drop a raw file onto the browser and away you go. I know a fair number of CH folks use it. It's pricey but worth it, I feel. You have some of the same capabilities in something like Lumariver, also excellent, but I find it a little more fiddly to deal with.

For 3DLutCreator there is a specific setup that has to be done in the first place but only once. 
Its creating a basic correction profile with which you export your TIF for the profiling.
There are videos about it on YT from the Creators of 3DLC.
Let me know if you need help.

BasiColor might work now with version 6 better than V5.
Its for sure worth a try.

I regularly achieve with 3DylC Delta Values of around 1.4 and with additional work even was up to 1.1

I once also meassured the corrected color patches of the xrite sg and compared them to the reference values, that are provided by xrite, its top notch results wit 3DLC.

Manual correction is also possible and you can use 3DLC also on a highly sophisticated level addionally for general color grading and correction purposes, creating ICC looks for C1.

For really working with colors there is only 3DLC, C1 and Davinci Resolve, but also as a PS plugin Lumenzia, forget the rest.

C1 and 3DLC is a dream team.

Thanks so much for both of your quick replies. I'll check them both out! Cheers

If I need a scene specific profile for very accurate color (products/repro) I’ve always used basiccolor input to do the work with my color checker sg. Works great. This feature request would be a nice convenience in certain situations and would potentially eliminate some steps, for sure.

3DLutCreator is a great and super precise tool for creating C1 compatible correction profiles.

It is possible that they do not include it, xrite,  cause they have an inhouse competitive product, named C1 Cultural Heritage

Its possible that they fear that when xrite is incl in C1 pro that Cultural Heritage looses maybe some potential customers?
Im only speculating, I dont know for sure

But as long as they ignore it and give no reason, speculation is all thats left.

Really get 3DLutCreator for creating correction profiles and forget the rest, its the best in the game.

I do color critical work every day and I ve been already through all possebilities.

Maybe BasiColor 6 (?) , latest version workes better now than the previous ones, but I gave up on it during version 5

It seems insane that they won't even look into this issue, when they tout themselves as the only professional choice in photographic software etc. 

Yet a lot of their recent features seem to target the amateur photographer/lightroom user, and not their core base of working professionals, for whom a feature like this is hugely important and appealing to.

A few of the previous solutions were 3 years ago, so I'm wondering what everyone does now to manage the lack of this feature. What are the work arounds since C1 seem completely disinterested after 14 years of people asking this question..

I'm with Damani about too much steps for ICC-ing.
The pro requires good color with minimal steps from the key app in the workflow.
It would really be amazing if C1P could team up with Calibrate and friends for a workflow,
at least as near as Lightroom can go, that is keeping you at work rather than export tiff as neutral, import to calibrate, export as icc, close capture one, open capture one use ICC. 

I'd really love a solution for this

Adding to this convo. I have to move over to Capture One from Darktable and I’m not happy about it. For me the only pro of Capture One is its long list of compatible cameras. I’ve really loved Darktable especially for its integrated color checker workflow. But unfortunately its tethered capture environment is just weak. But in researching the switch and c1s color checker workflow, I can’t imagine why such a common workflow might require 2 programs and a step like closing and reopening capture one but I’m not looking forward to it. Please reconsider taking action on this feature.

Hi everyone, 
Thank you for the suggestion - this is not something we are currently working on.

This does not mean this is a bad suggestion or that it will never be adressed, but in an effort of transparency we want you to know that we are not currently allocating resources to solving this issue.

We will revisit the status of this thread if and when it changes.

Since X-rite is out of the game now, it will never for sure.

basICColor is the easiest way to go.

Digit Transition just announced the DT FADGI Flow Software, but certainly a quite serious investment.

This issues has been on going for years yet nothing from capture one's product management. If the would even create their own color capture card id be fine with that. But nothing after three years of asking gives me less hope this will ever be resolved.

Moved from the archive on 22.05.23.

If you take the cost of purchasing the color target and a viable icc creation software into account, then it's barely worth it. Here you are quickly at >200 EUR and also consider the whole effort for the calibration, usage, test, ...

The alternative could be the free XRite software (ColorChecker Camera Calibration) but with limited results.

The new CaptureOne ProStandard profiles look the most promising. If you own a supported camera, I would try that first. If your camera is not supported then submit a request.
If you are a Fuji-X user, then meanwhile stick with the Provia or ProNeg profiles.

If you search for this topic you'll see that there are requests going back 12 years (?!?!?) to have this feature added to Capture One.

Is it worth buying an X-Rite Colour Checker when there's no straight forward way to integrate it with Capture One?

I'm having second thoughts as I was just about to purchase one, but seeing a lot of people questions/comments on here it's making me question that idea.

Are there any alternatives that are worth pursuing? Thanks

@Christian Schmieder:

> Have you compared them?

Yes, I compared them (a lot). For me the difference is quite significant, especially the skin tones and and the blues are noticeable. The generic profiles from Capture One tends to shift colors slightly into red. With generic profiles you see orangy yellows and magenta like blues. I experienced this with Canon and Fujifilm cameras as well. I wanted to get rid of this with ColorChecker Passport and Lumariver. It worked.

The reference was the X-Rite Plugin in Lightroom and the default color profile from Fujifilm (Provia), which Fuji users can apply as a curve in CaptureOne). I compared the results on my color calibrated monitor.

The Lumariver results are very close to the Lightroom calibration variant in terms of color accuracy and contrast. Additionally the Fujifilm Provia profile is a bit more punchy and vivid in comparison to Lumariver but has nearly the same colors.

Further on the basicclor input software:
It seems that version 6 is now fully compatible with C1 no gamma problem as I had with version 5.

Yes, guess you are right.
For common Profiles for C1 that should be fine or for common purposes overall.
I'm working in a color critical environment, reproduction work and stuff. Between the differences in the lumariver editions, I read 2.5 D vs. 3 D LUT and the Repro-Edition would have been the only possible Option for me. 👍

Would be interesting then if the C1 StandardPro or C1 Generic Kamera Profiles made by C1 for every supported camera, would be sufficient enough for most people or most common purposes, instead of investing in a 2.5 profile or how they stand up against each other?

Have you compared them?

Nah, you only need the Pro Version of Lumariver. This edition currently costs 100 EUR. With that you can create ICC profiles with high resolution LUT (2.5 D). This works like a charm and creates fantastic results for Capture One.

With Repro Edition you can even create color profiles with 3D LUT Type. But this makes sense in highly controlled conditions only and if you have strict reproduction work.

Just if someone is interested:

3DLutCreator - Professional Edition (all features) is currently on sale for 186$ approx 151 EUR vs.

Lumariver Repro Edition, 200 EUR.

Cheers and Happy New Year!

Ok, i created a inverted curve ICC profile for Capture One (I now also understood what is the point for something like that - inverted adjustments in C1, havn't read the neg scanning post, and personally for me no problem, when some sliders are inverted, I did not even considered it being a problem at all, left is right and right is left, when you are able to realise it, you are able to adapt to it :) .

I tried the profile, but strangely enough, also with the profile the sliders, for axample Exposure, behave like the inverted C1 curve method, slider is inverted, seems no difference wheter you Invert the curve in C1 or use an inverted curve profile. I don't understand the math behind that, tried some other things aswell. I guess the people in neg scan post are already through everything I just did.

here is the profile anyway:

https://my.hidrive.com/lnk/3ciFCZj5

You can also created an inverted icc curve profile with photoshop.

Just create a curves adjustmensts layer, invert the curve and with Export > Color lookup tables you created your ICC profile.