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What problem do you see this solving?
Analog photography is back and we need comprehensive tools for editing
As analog/negative film becomes (again) part of many photographers workflows and producing repro/macro shots of negative film with digital cameras becomes more prominent, I would really love to see an option for CaptureOne Pro that would allow native conversion of negative film from RAW.
A hidden feature?
This feature is already available, but only for CaptureOne CH (Cultural Heritage) users. There are work arounds, but tools like Negative Lab Pro became very popular for a reason. Unfortunately this plug-in is only available for Adobe Lightroom. As far as I understand, plug-in architecture of CaptureOne does not allow the tight integration a tool like Negative Lab Pro requires. So we are kind of stuck here. I am aware of the fact that you can invert the curves, but this is not a very convenient neither very consistent approach with reproducible results across multiple shoots and film brands. So why not opening the already present CH feature to all of us? It would be an initial step to cover this market. From there on more (current) film brands could be implemented.
When was the last time you were affected by this lack of functionality, or specific tool?
Any time I would take a macro shot of an analog film with my mirrorless I would have to jump through hoops to create a positive, editable image in my C1 library.
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Current workaround
Are you using any workarounds or other solutions to achieve your goals in Capture One? For Mac users a tool called "Analogue Toolbox" by Michael Wilmes is available (see below). His workaround does an excellent job, but unfortunately it is hampered by technical limitations within C1. He is very knowledgeable and helpful, but it is upon the C1 engineers to take the next step. |
please add a function to B&W Tool for converting BW Negatives (Repros of Film) to Positives. A further detail function for the characteristics of the most used BW films (for example Ilford FP4, HP4, HP5 and others) would make often used workflows easier
PLEASE add some basic functionality for this into capture one pro. Capture one CH is out of reach and not built for the vast majority of users and there's quite a few of us who either still shoot film or have an archive we'd like to capture but could never afford Capture one CH let alone the CH intended cameras.
I would also like something of the caliber of Negative Lab Pro on Capture One.
For those who are interested in interim or alternative solutions there are two programs you may want to try:
Both are available for Windows and macOS. FilmLab also has a quick preview application for Android and iOS. Pricing for both is quite reasonable. The difference in their user interfaces and approaches to color science are also useful for considering how comparable features might be implemented in Capture One. (I tend to lean toward FilmLab's implementation because of the similarity to C1.
While it's more work to use standalone applications, you can still keep track of raw files and output JPEGs and TIFFs in C1 to leverage the C1 catalog and metadata features, like keywords. It seems likely that these applications can quickly produce good, consistent results without a lot of manipulation of each image, but also without the entire complement of editing tools present in C1.
I do the analog conversion without any scripts.
In settings, change tonal value channels from RGB to red green and blue.
Now you can create a preset that has an inverted layer and you can then automatically adjust the tonal values for each channel. It works best without film border I believe.
This could be improved, since if you are working with normal raw photos as well, switching the tonal value feature every time for this is annoying. Also it should then differentiate between the cropped image and the whole image for the tonal values, as the film border should not be included obviously, for brightness adjustments.
Maybe this helps someone though. There are also 1-2 videos on this method on youtube.
I have tried NLP, Grain2Pixel, RawTherapee, Darktable, manual/action conversion in Photoshop and a few others. I found, that doing it the above mentioned way in C1 gives really good results, because a lot of the others are either really unpolished or lack features that even though C1 is not designed for negative conversion, can do a lot more due to the tonal value control and layers etc. Also it is not converting the files into some lossy format and you can do all within 1 program. The white balance with this technique is out of the box pretty good and you can easily tweak the colors to your liking. Negative film can have the colors you want, so I think NLP is heavily overrated anway.
Thanks Benjamin Benzine, I installed your Applescript in Capture One and it seems to do what I was looking for..But fully agree with you that it should be a feature of C1..
@BeO That’s correct. I was carried away and thought he was asking about the toolbox.
Negative Lab Pro is a plug-in for Lightroom.
@Miguel You can send a message to the creator of the app here: https://michael-wilmes.format.com/toolbox
I haven’t been able to use it yet, but will do as soon as I have got a new MacBook Pro.
How and where from can i download the app? how does it work with C1?
NLP would be a way to go in my opinion if only it could be ported. It is so advanced now and I can get as good scans as from a lab, of course with a greater possibility for adjustments. I don't know how good the CH conversion is. Has anybody have any experience with it?
Any progress here? Hey, C1 developers, when will you finally address one of the most wanted features? Either do it yourself or provide better SDK to plugin developers, so Negative Lab Pro could port their Lightroom plugin to C1.
Analog Toolbox and the scripts are only for Apple wonks who have more dollars than sense. Others like me aren't interested in looking cool and would rather keep our money to get all we need from a system for for half as much. The amount of money I save on not buying Apple comparing the specs on my current machine with Apple's current offerings, roughly $1.5k will pay for 7 or 8 years of photoshop plus negative lab pro ($100). F Capture One. I had it for years. And they lost me. I had talked a bunch of people into buying it before, and now I regret it for just this. I'm unsubscribing from this thread as it is dead and useless. Happy Wednesday.
Now I found a website (outside FB) with more information regarding the tool:https://michael-wilmes.format.com/toolbox
Thanks for the advice to search for the tools. But I apparently still need FB to be able to download the tools. 😩
I made one especially for this and thought it was worth it. I think someone else might appreciate the info.
No idea, I don't have a Facebook account.
Isn't the free 'plugin' Analog Toolbox for Capture One doing the same as this script but faster and more (and free)? Search for that name in case this Facebook group link won't work : https://www.facebook.com/groups/141662290513120
Thanks, Benjamin Bezine for the script! I have tried it and so far it works very well. Will be using it much more after the New Year, when I will try to scan some old negative slides that have been lying around in my drawer.
I agree with you on the wish to have this feature implemented within C1.
Thanks 8113037348637 ! - I'm the author of the page you mention. Glad you liked it, but I would still much prefer if it were a feature of Capture One... please C1 people, if you hear us...
In the meantime, feel free to share any suggestion for improvement!
I found some information regarding »Scanning film negatives with Capture One» here: https://medium.com/@benjamin.bezine/scanning-film-negatives-with-capture-one-e707d52c9b7a
I tried to use the scripts on my MacBook Pro according to the information and suggestions pointed out in the link above, and it worked quite well, if I may say so.
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